placeOrders ACCESS_DENIED with Delayed Key

[suthy]

Hi,

I'm getting the following error attempting to call placeOrders using the delayed API key:

{ code: -32099,
message: 'ANGX-0015',
data:
{ APINGException:
{ requestUUID: 'prdang043-04180848-006043bdfa',
errorCode: 'ACCESS_DENIED',
errorDetails: '' },
exceptionname: 'APINGException' } }

I'm seeing conflicting information in previous similar posts, some saying that place orders only works with live key, others having delayed keys with betting disabled and then subsequently having betting enabled on delayed key.

For further info, here is the request:

{ request:
{ jsonrpc: '2.0',
id: 18,
method: 'SportsAPING/v1.0/placeOrders',
params: { marketId: '1.131379950', instructions: [Object] } }

Of which the instructions object is made up of:

[ { orderType: 'LIMIT',
selectionId: 424762,
side: 'LAY',
limitOrder: { price: 1.8, size: '4.24', persistenceType: 'PERSIST' } },
{ orderType: 'LIMIT',
selectionId: 12942908,
side: 'LAY',
limitOrder: { price: 1.8, size: '4.24', persistenceType: 'PERSIST' } },
{ orderType: 'LIMIT',
selectionId: 12787742,
side: 'LAY',
limitOrder: { price: 1.8, size: '4.24', persistenceType: 'PERSIST' } },
{ orderType: 'LIMIT',
selectionId: 12925606,
side: 'LAY',
limitOrder: { price: 1.8, size: '4.24', persistenceType: 'PERSIST' } },
{ orderType: 'LIMIT',
selectionId: 12973175,
side: 'LAY',
limitOrder: { price: 1.8, size: '4.24', persistenceType: 'PERSIST' } },
{ orderType: 'LIMIT',
selectionId: 12973176,
side: 'LAY',
limitOrder: { price: 1.8, size: '4.24', persistenceType: 'PERSIST' } },
{ orderType: 'LIMIT',
selectionId: 12899177,
side: 'LAY',
limitOrder: { price: 1.8, size: '4.24', persistenceType: 'PERSIST' } },
{ orderType: 'LIMIT',
selectionId: 12899179,
side: 'LAY',
limitOrder: { price: 1.8, size: '4.24', persistenceType: 'PERSIST' } } ]

Any help appreciated.

Regards

Andy

[jabe]

You need a live key to place bets.

[suthy]

Thanks Jabe,

The API documentation states that Bet Placement (Live Exchange) is available with the delayed key.

http://docs.developer.betfair.com/do...pplicationKeys

And thread here talks about delayed key being disabled for betting:

http://forum.bdp.betfair.com/showthr...hlight=delayed

Have things changed since then and the docs are out of date?

[jabe]

Thanks Jabe,

The API documentation states that Bet Placement (Live Exchange) is available with the delayed key.

http://docs.developer.betfair.com/do...pplicationKeys

And thread here talks about delayed key being disabled for betting:

http://forum.bdp.betfair.com/showthr...hlight=delayed

Have things changed since then and the docs are out of date?

I do beg your pardon, looks like I was wrong. Perhaps that was changed when the fee for a full key was introduced.

[suthy]

No problem Jabe, using the live key seems to be the "answer" on other similar threads, but I'm not ready to shell out for one while still developing.

Anyone help out?

[LiamP]

Do your headers include your app key and session token?

[KJIB]

I'm using the delayed key and can place bets and if there's a match then they get matched to. I can also cancel unmatched bets using the delayed key and it will cancel unmatched bets made from my app or with other live apps too, if you tell it to.

Obviously you're going need to be mega careful placing bets with a delayed key as you can't see if it makes sense without another app that has a live key to show you the real data.

So, if you can't place bets with your delayed key, I think you've a bug. Check your parameters.

[jabe]

You'll need to have placed a bet on your Betfair account that has been settled within the last 3 months (or something like this).

[suthy]

Headers as follows (same as other working requests to API). My actual delayed key replaced with MYAPPLICATIONKEY for snippet:

{ 'X-Authentication': 'I2qTpJEiqHzGcTh5wgRluDkEpp5cs73SpRmkdFUW+qU=',
'Content-Type': 'application/json',
'Content-Length': 1252,
Connection: 'keep-alive',
'X-Application': 'MYAPPLICATIONKEY' }

There are lots of recently settled bets on my account, but I'll place another noddy bet manually to check that angle.

Thank's all

[BigSprout]

Hi Suthy,
looking at your code in your original post it seems that you have the size as a type string?

e.g.
shouldn't these lines:
limitOrder: { price: 1.8, size: '4.24', persistenceType: 'PERSIST' } },

read:
limitOrder: { price: 1.8, size: 4.24, persistenceType: 'PERSIST' } },

I code in VB.Net and it uses double quotes to signify a string, not sure what the single quotes mean?
cheers

[jabe]

[QUOTE=BigSprout;14484]Hi Suthy,
looking at your code in your original post it seems that you have the size as a type string?/QUOTE]

It's okay to do this. In some situations, it appears to be safer.

[BigSprout]

Thanks Jabe, something I didn't know

[suthy]

Same response after placing £2 losing exchange bet on some Chinese football team I'd never heard of before

[jabe]

Same response after placing £2 losing exchange bet on some Chinese football team I'd never heard of before

Can only think it's the live key thing then. If the request contained code errors, I would have expected that to be rejected before access was denied.

[suthy]

Quick update.

Created a new set of application keys on a different betfair account and am now placing live orders using the delayed key.

Must be an issue with the specific key I was using.

Thanks for all your help.