I want to create a betting performance analytics website

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  • BetDevK
    Junior Member
    • Mar 2019
    • 5

    #1

    I want to create a betting performance analytics website

    I want to create a website that automatically compiles and analyzes my betting records and performance.

    Anyone can go on the website and view my betting statistics and know if I am a good bettor or not.

    A lot of people (tipsters) on twitter say they are good at betting but only post their winning ticket. so really, you cannot say for sure how good they are at betting.

    I want my website to be transparent and honest and people can see who is a good bettor and who isn't.

    Any advice on how do I go about setting this up? Any developers I can speak with about this?

    I am hoping to have something ready by the time EPL starts in August.

    I believe is'll be a case of retrieving my betting data automatically via Betfair API and my website does the rest (performance analytics)

    kennyadesodun@gmail.com
  • bfexplorer
    Senior Member
    • Sep 2018
    • 212

    #2
    What is your budget?

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    • LetsGo
      Senior Member
      • Oct 2018
      • 112

      #3
      I don't see how it could ever be validated without someone knowing your password.

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      • jabe
        Senior Member
        • Dec 2014
        • 705

        #4
        I can see how you could put your own results up, but you won't get anyone else's unless they volunteer and send you their information. I'd be more concerned about potentially giving away betting strategies. I don't bet so that other people can see how good I am at doing it. My aim is to quietly make money without anyone noticing or taking the value out of any strategies I use. In addition, Betfair isn't keen on apps that merely extract data but don't make bets.

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        • BetDevK
          Junior Member
          • Mar 2019
          • 5

          #5
          Thanks Jabe,

          I understand where you are coming from.

          However, there are certain arbitrage strategies that will work well with leverage.

          My having an (independent) website that rates the strategies, it makes it easier to proof the existence of the strategies and make a case for leverage.

          If a risk free strategy generates 2c for every $1,000, then the idea of getting more capital can be raised.

          The performance metrics will simply be risk adjusted (win-loss) ratio's, it will not collect what market is being traded, just the performance. Hence the strategy can remain secret. And it'll work on an average staking size as a percentage of overall bank, also average odds
          Last edited by BetDevK; 27-06-2019, 02:15 AM.

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          • LiamP
            Junior Member
            • Oct 2015
            • 284

            #6
            How is it independent if you are making it?

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            • bfexplorer
              Senior Member
              • Sep 2018
              • 212

              #7
              He have no money to build it anyway, and yes, betfair T&C does not allow usage of personal data this way. Well, yes web api allows such data usage but any application built on web api primarily must place bets as well.

              I contacted him by email, as his first post suggested that he will use the web app only for his own personal usage, so just his account would be accessed, but here as always such people do, he elaborates what is the aim of "his" web app, just to steal other users data!

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              • BetDevK
                Junior Member
                • Mar 2019
                • 5

                #8
                LiamP: The idea is to try it out for myself, if the performance analytics can be culled directly from my betfair account, and anyone can go on the website and reasonably gauge the level of my performance.

                Ultimately, I won't be the sole user, hence it's independence in ranking and analyzing performance of any trader.

                bettingmetrics.com have something similar where there;s an analytics page that breaks down the performance of their tipsters, the only difference is, I want an analytics page that'll rank the performance of (my) traders on a skill vs luck continuum .



                Bfexplorer: you are full of it mate, maybe if you conducted yourself a bit more professionally, i would have been willing to give you a go:
                And you sure do jump to conclusions quite a lot don't ya?

                After you contacted me and offered your services, you asked for my budget, our email exchange was.

                ME:
                Hi -----------,

                Thanks for the email.

                Could you give me a price range for your services?

                What I want might also include other services (for example, automating a strategy), a lot will depend on your price offering.

                If you could give me a guide, that'll be great.

                Cheers,
                -----------.

                YOU:

                I am sorry but if you have no idea about your budget you certainly will no use my services.

                -----------------
                ME:

                That’s a shame you think that way.
                Thanks for your time.

                ------------------
                So scream all you want Stefan, I'm merely trying to build a platform that separates skillful traders from lucky traders.

                I simply chose to ignore your emails after, yeah your price might be cheaper than what most will do it for here in Australia, I feel you will care more about the money than actually delivering exactly what I want.

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                • bfexplorer
                  Senior Member
                  • Sep 2018
                  • 212

                  #9
                  How can anyone could say price when not knowing what should be implemented, therefore I asked you about your budget target at least, because from budget one could at least estimate what other party want to do.

                  Yes, of course some people say they have budget of 1000 GBP, and when you ask them what they want to build, they say, clone of betfair web site. I am here as developer from 2007 and have my experiences with such potential clients.

                  You were not able to say anything about your budget neither, therefor I ended our conversation, saying:

                  I am sorry but if you have no idea about your budget you certainly will no use my services.

                  That is the end of story.

                  Later here you actually stated what you want exactly build, and I answered:

                  He have no money to build it anyway, and yes, betfair T&C does not allow usage of personal data this way. Well, yes web api allows such data usage but any application built on web api primarily must place bets as well.

                  What is true, your app have no chance to go through betfair certification process because it breaches all T&C of using betfair api.

                  You told lies at the beginning, saying: "I want to create a website that automatically compiles and analyzes my betting records and performance."

                  You said you will use my betting records and performance, so you will use app for your personal use, only your data would be accesses, otherwise I would not try to bid on your project, knowing that you want to steal other betfair users data.

                  If you want to use it really for personal use, so only your betfair api account will be accessed, and your data presented to others then you are still welcome to post your exact specification including with your budget estimation, and I will reply with my price for such project.

                  I have experiences and already built different applications utilizing all kinds of betfair:

                  rest api, streaming api, and web apps api, my web site presents references of my work using betfair:

                  rest api, streaming api:

                  http://bfexplorer.net/Products/Bfexplorer

                  web apps api:

                  http://bfexplorer.net/Products/CashOutAll

                  Cashoutall web app was build for betfair itself when they tried to popularize their new api, therefor I know about T&C of using web apps api, and the certification process as well.

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