MetaData for a race meeting

[OzPunter]

While there is lots of runner data for horse racing contained in the metadata, is there any similar data available for a race meeting, in particular the track condition, like good, slow, heavy for example? Anybody Know? or do I have to scrape a local website for that info..

[LiamP]

You can use a private API that the website uses:

https://github.com/liampauling/betfa...ts/racecard.py

[OzPunter]

Thank LiamP, I'm mainly interested in the track condition or state of the going. Not sure if that site gives me that. Thanks anyway, it might be easier to scrape a local racing website, its not easy finding the state of the track when you're on the other side of the planet.. hehe..

[LiamP]

Thank LiamP, I'm mainly interested in the track condition or state of the going. Not sure if that site gives me that. Thanks anyway, it might be easier to scrape a local racing website, its not easy finding the state of the track when you're on the other side of the planet.. hehe..

That endpoint gives you the going along with type/distance/prize money etc.

[bfexplorer]

You can get any information about race and runners, have a look at here:

https://youtu.be/CX0k_U--8zo

[OzPunter]

Thanks bfExplorer, I gather these are programs for sale?

[OzPunter]

That endpoint gives you the going along with type/distance/prize money etc.

Thanks Liamp, I'll dig into that, not sure how to access the data though..

[bfexplorer]

Thanks bfExplorer, I gather these are programs for sale?

Bfexplorer BOT SDK is free bonus to Bfexplorer app:

http://bfexplorer.net/Products/BfexplorerBotSDK

so basically you can get access to any piece of code I wrote from 2007, which is included to BOT SDK libraries. My short video shows using of this bot sdk libraries code, when querying additional info for horse racing market, so:

    let! result = BetfairWebApiDataProvider.GetHorseRaceData(market.MarketInfo)

    if result.IsSuccessResult
    then
        let horseRaceData = result.SuccessResult

        printfn "%A" horseRaceData

[geoffw123]

Hi BFExplorer

Why do you answer every technical question posted on these forums, with an advert for people to buy your BFExplorer App ? We heard you the first 10,000 messsages. It is getting very tedious, It is also probably contravening the terms of use of this forum, spamming ads is likely not allowed.

This thread is actually an interesting question, You are obviously are a good programmer and have deep knowledge in this area, I challenge you to actually make a useful contribution and answer the actual technical questions such as

Q1) what exactly is this API ? What Betfair page uses this API ?
Q2) what exactly is this API Endpoint ?
Q3) How easy is it to use ? Do you have to login to use the API, if so what userId & password are needed ?
Q4) What data is actually provided ?


For Liam
Thanks for your post and link to python code, it was interesting to peruse. I am not a python programmer and couldnt get it to work on a quick try.
If you could maybe answer the above questions it would be great too, thanks.

Geoff

[bfexplorer]

Geoff

What you can do for free for me, please elaborate?

Because questions you asked for, are results of couple hours of work actually exceeding amount you would pay for bfexplorer subscription.

Just say what you can do for free for me, and I will reply with free advice, if information/work you will provide will be worse for me.

I use my app, so any answers are biased to using the code/know-how/skills with my app.I simply cannot take a piece of code from my app, and make it work for anyone, as such piece of code is part of bfexplorer backend code.

To get access to betfair api, you pay fees to betfair.

To get access to betfair api, and use my code, you pay bfexplorer subscription, what is difference here? My code uses my vendors app key, and for this app key I had to pay as anyone else.

Yes, I see big difference here, as to get working anything in public domain will take you months of your own work, with uncertain results.

Using my bot sdk will give you all in one working day, if you are .net developer.

The question Australian was asking has been answered by me, so what is your problem? I actually added additional information Liam was not mentioning.

There are two sources of data Australian was asking and I showed them in my video, showing 2 different methods to get data, and data itself.

[geoffw123]

Hello

I would be perfectly happy to answer any technical questions that you have regarding Betfair, guess what, for free of charge ! I am aware you are very knowledgeble on this subject so that is unlikely to be needed. The offer stands however.
From this and other posts, you seem to have no concept that people sometimes do things just to be helpful and pass on information without wanting financial reward.

I guess you dont want to answer the 4 questions I posted, never mind. I think I prefer living in my world than yours !

I dont want to get into an argument with you, just a polite request to tone down the adverts in future please. Thanks

Regards

[LiamP]

Sure Geoff, you can find the endpoint if you open up developer tools on chrome or IE and go to a horse racing market. The endpoint is:

https://www.betfair.com/rest/v2/raceCard

It uses uses an appKey that is stored on the betfair home page which looks to be static which you can find if you open up the source of a betfair page and search for it. The parameters are a bit odd so I recommend having a look at what the site sends.

[bfexplorer]

Hello

I would be perfectly happy to answer any technical questions that you have regarding Betfair, guess what, for free of charge ! I am aware you are very knowledgeble on this subject so that is unlikely to be needed. The offer stands however.
From this and other posts, you seem to have no concept that people sometimes do things just to be helpful and pass on information without wanting financial reward.

I guess you dont want to answer the 4 questions I posted, never mind. I think I prefer living in my world than yours !

I dont want to get into an argument with you, just a polite request to tone down the adverts in future please. Thanks

Regards

Geoff, it only confirms that you actually did not watch, what I posted, because in my video, you have got answers to Q2. Q3 and Q4. I did not want to post any url of endpoints because it is not publicly available and documented endpoint from betfair side, so it breaches betfair T&C. As any T&C on any web site does not allow web page parsing or using not official api's by third parties.

Yes, betfair tolerates using of their data for personal use, mainly when it is really used by customer which use betfair for betting or trading.

If Liam posted here direct url of this undocumented end point, it is up to his understanding of law and any betfair T&C breaches are his problems. As what you post here can be used by entities having no interest in betfair betting (so not paying fees to betfair), but just taking betfair data for its own use.

So if you are asking, how to use betfair data without identifying yourself, so without login to betfair account, you are the one breaching betfair T&C, and I would suggest betfair team to scrutinize your activity here.

[geoffw123]

Hi Liam

Thanks for the info, I will have a dig around more when i get time. Maybe Betfair might consider adding course going to the metadata table, as it a lot more useful than some of the data they have already included.

BfExplorer, thanks for your constructive input, and putting words into my mouth

Regards

[OzPunter]

Cool it guys, It's not worth squabbling about. Everyone has something to contribute, whether I accept the information or not is my choice. I was prompted to ask the question about track condition because I am having great success in Australian racing by laying the top weighted runners on rain affected tracks, so I was considering making a bot to do the same on UK tracks, but the program would need to know the track condition before placing a bet. That's all, I didn't mean to start WW3.